Both Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams were banished from Massachusetts Bay for disagreeing with the Puritan majority. How did the ideas of Williams and Hutchinson help to contribute to the American Constitutional foundation of separation of church and state?
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well for now all i have is that Anne Hutchingson and roger williams contributed to the America constitutions idea of separating church and state by, well first Anne hutchinsn was a religous figure and activist who brought controvercy in Massachusetts regarding the Christian Doctrine. She believed strongly withpersonal revalation. She tried to sontinue her fathers ideas by supporting Religious Idividuality.
Roger willaims contributed to the ideas ofseparation of shurch and state by, being the first spokesman for religoise tolerance and believed stongly in separation of church and state. He as well as Anne was banished from massachusetts....but unlike anne, roger persued a life in government and later on established what was to be called the "the sewer conoly" or Rhode Island.
First off, Anne Huchinson was one that used her quick wits and eloquence to argue the doctine of predestination. She said stressed that the holy life did not promise salvation. This was known as antinomianism (or "against the law" in Greek), and this was considered to be a high herisy. With these assertions, i would imagine that this would stir some people's minds in a sense that if they truly were already predestined to hell then why not do whatever they wanted? This could have also stirred up people's thoughts in a way that they did not want to have any part in the state because it was intergrated with the "faulty" church.
On the other hand, Salem's Roger Williams also disagreed with the Puritan church's beliefs, but somewhat in a different way than Anne Huchinson. He believed that the Bay Colonies were treating the Indians unfairly by taking their land without fair compensation. He also denied the authority of the civil government's power to regulate religious practices. 'Why should the state have power to force religion upon someone?' Is basically what Williams was trying to proclaim.
Anne Huchinson and Roger Williams spoke their minds, and stood strong even if they stood alone. This admirable boldness in stating their opinions may not have started a rebellion or a fierce opposition, but it definetely started a foundation for the idea of the state having independence away from the dictation of the church. If both of these individuals would not have spoken their ideas then i don't believe the segregation of church and state would have taken place at the same pace.
Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams contributed to the concept of seperation of state easily. First off, they both spoke their minds. Anne belevied that people weren't chosen to be saved, and Roger just flat out disagreed with Puritan beliefs. They both recognized that the state cannot have control of what religion people can acquire. This belief led to the concept of the seperation of church and state.
Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams contributed to the American Constitutional foundation of separation of church and state because they questioned the Puritans' values of religion and politics.
Anne Hutchinson was an intelligent and pious woman who contributed to her church, but might have been too smart for her own good. She questioned predestination and believed if the "elect" were to go to heaven, then why should the rest of the people obey and live by useless rules if they were going to hell.
Roger Williams was a Salem minister with radical ideas. He was the first to deny the idea that religion should govern the Puritan idea of a political society. He even was against the Bay Colony's charter because the Puritans had taken away Indian land for themselves.
wow i must say that you guys all have a lot of info! all i have to say is that Anne was a wicked cool chick who followed her dreams and went for what she believe in. Which gave her enough courage and strentgh not to mention determination which may help caus the whole churc thing. Or she could have possibly been one of those annoying womanist ladies that made everyone want to slap her. Now Roger on the other hand didn't expect to see the people who he led to Salem to become total druggies and become terriost hippie that claim dogs and women to be witches. But I have to admit that it brought them through a seperation with the church.
Neither Williams or Hutchinson actually changed any laws to increase the seperation of church and state but definitely contributed to the movement. Hutchinson, in my view, created a more impactful mark on the movement because she was a woman critizing the church's ways and beliefs the majority of the new world's leaders believed in. Although i think her theory of not following man's or God's law is a little obsurd she is still entitled to her opinion, which she was punsihed for, and most likely stirred up more followers on her side and the side of seperation between church and state. Williams on the other hand critized the Bay colony's charter and proposed the authority of the civil government to regulate the church as wrong and unjust. Although no laws were changed, both he and Hutchinson contributed to the first movement in the colonies to push for the seperation of church and state.
They both contributed to the foundation of seperation of church and state in the American Constitution because they caused controversy with thier ideas on religion. Anne Hutchinson was a strong-willed women and even though her thoughts were frawned upon by the church, people took notice. Then Roger William, was the first to have a colony with freedom of religion, this allowed people to think for themselves. They spoke what they believed and didn't really care what other people thought. They caused such a stir in the church that people had to take notice. When people started to take this into thought the church started to make changes, which i believe has now caused freedom of religion in the constitution.
Well Anne Hutchinson was a very outspoken woman. She was very quick-witted. The idea that she disagreed with the most was the idea of predestination. She did not believe that God had chosen at creation who would be saved and who wouldn't. She was charged with speaking a heresy. She did not believe that a state could dictate what people believe in.
As for Roger Williams, he just disagreed with the government controlling the religion fo the colony. He also did not like the way they treated the Indians. He was later banished and he also started Rhode Island, or as other people called it "The Sewer Colony". This was a place that had religious tolerance for all. So Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams both alike disagreed with the idea of the state controlling the religion and both contributed to the idea of separation of church and state.
Anne Hutchinson was an intelligent, outspoken, and courageous woman that enabled her to declare hew own religious philosophy of predestination of the Puritan doctrine. She claimed that those with God’s grace could not go wrong as opposed to the covenant of good works. In other words, she believed that faith alone was enough for salvation. Worried, the Puritan leaders banished Hutchinson from Massachusetts Bay Colony out of fear of “polluting” the entire Puritan beliefs. Anne Hutchinson’s assertion regarding the Puritan orthodoxy surely symbolizes the individual of freedom of thought, speech, and worship which may contribute to the separation of the church and the state. This means that if people could break free from the Puritan strict set of rules, then they would be able to lessen the authority of the church and its leaders over the state.
Roger Williams was more rebellious and threatening to the Puritan leaders, but like Hutchinson, he denied the Puritan doctrine of predestination. He argued that an individual would know when one was saved, but could not know the salvation of others. Also, he denied the right of the government to punish what were considered religious infractions. He disagreed with the violation of rights of others, such as taking lands from the Native Americans, in order to establish a consistence of faith and worship among the colonists. In essence, Williams was calling for a complete separation of the church and state.
Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams made a huge contribution in the ideas of separating
church and state.
Anne Hutchinson was a free thinking woman. She was banished because she opposed
the Puritan beliefs by logic against the Puritan doctrine. She said that living
a perfectly holy life wouldn't surly grant you salvation.
Roger Williams was a strong believer in the separation of church and state. He
was an intullectual who was also a government man.
by the the way im in your 3rd period class now
With Anne Hutchinson, she made a statement that defied the Puritan doctrine of predestination. She used the argument that those who are chosen by God to be saved need not to heed men nor God's law, for he was chosen by God... or something. So this shows that the religious doctrines of Puritan religion may negate the laws that man made, thus making the two unable to coexist together.
Now for Roger Williams, he addressed the religious impurity of the government, so called to do "God's bidding." For instance, the way the Puritans did not compensate the Native Americans properly for taking their land, basically stealing. "Thou shalt not steal." And then there's the way that you have to be a member of the Puritan church to have a say in democratic processes. So you pretty much have to be Puritan to be part of the government. This pretty much defeated the Puritans idea of what a government should do...
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Well that's what the book said...
So with those were how Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams contributed to the idea of separtion of church and state...
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By claiming that the truly saved need not bother to obey the law of either God or man, Anne Hutchinson asserted a new "heresy" of antinomianism. She questioned the authority of Puritan doctrine of predestination as well as the Puritan experiment. Although it was viewed as a high heresy then, it formed the backbone of the separation of church and state concept. She asserted the idea of individual right and challenged the concept of complete salvation. Despite her impact, I think that Roger Williams had a greater impact on the early principles of the separation of religion and government. He insisted that the civil magistrates have no business punishing people for their religious beliefs and that civil authority be natural and not based on religion. Williams' primarily sought a legal separation so that membership of the church would not qualify a person to be considered a freeman. He emphasized a break from the Church of England as well as challenged the legality of the Bay colony's charter. Although persecuted drastically for his "heresy", Williams provided a recognition of governmental flaw. In founding Rhode Island, Williams endorsed religious tolerance. He demanded no oaths regarding religious beliefs, no compulsory attendance of worship, and no taxes to support a state church. Rhode Island became known the most liberal and religiously tolerant of all settlements. The Rhode Island Charter of 1663 strictly prohibited any persecution by the state of any person exercising freedom of religion. It stood as an extreme example of separation of church and state.
I agree with hend when he says that Anne Hutchinson formed the backbone for the idea of separation of church and state. She really did give a major input with her challenges of predestination.
I also agree with jayaguilar86 when he says that when bith Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams stated their opinions, gave a foundation to idea of state having independence from church.
Anne Hutchingson and Roger Williams played a very big role in the seperation of the church and State.
I believe they both spoke their minds and didnt want to be forced to worship something they didnt want to do worship. By them being the outspoken individuals they were, they influenced many people to follow in their footsteps without speaking. They were great leaders, and every leader needs a follower.
I agree with Hend when he says Anne Hutchingson formed the backbone for the seperation of the State and Church because many followed in her footsteps and they may have been happy for her speaking against the church.
I disagree with Lucky because nothing was stated about the beliefs of Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams. What you said was irrelevant to the contribution of the separation of the church and state. You were quite biased by saying Anne Hutchinson was “annoying” for being an outspoken feminist, which contradicts to what you said previously, about her being courageous and determined.
I agree with Hend that religious toleration through the founding of Rhode Island is a great example of the separation of the state and church. Roger Williams was able to show the true democracy of the state and that the government could still attain authority without religion intervening.
Ann Hutchinson came to realize that the rigid union of Church and State was more stifling than liberating. She believed that all we needed to be admitted in Heaven was faith, but such a pure and simple view of the path to salvation did not leave a lot of room for the church to govern its people, so it was therefore not acceptable. The Puritans opposed her growing influence among local believers, which was seen as a confrontation over the role of the authority in the colony, and because of this she was exiled. Anne’s words, however, had opened the minds of many to religious freedom.
Williams felt that the state should not hamper the establishment of religious groups. He rebelled against authority and argued for individual liberty. He believed it was senseless to require a religious qualification for voting. Williams was essentially calling for the complete separation of church and state. Under Williams’ influence, Rhode Island became a haven that endorsed religious tolerance. Rhode Island also prohibited persecution by the state of anyone exercising freedom of religion, proving to be an example of the separation of church and state.
Because of Hutchinson and Williams, a government with religious liberty and a separation between civil and clerical authority was formed.
Anne Hutchinson was a strong-willed person who questioned the Puritan doctrine of predestination. She believed that living a holy life wasn't even a sure way of salvation. Her assertion of antinomianism brought her to trial. All in all, her beliefs and thoughts brought about what would eventually lead to the seperation of the church and state. With her arguments towards the doctrine and the Puritan beliefs itself, wouldn't other people see her view as well, questioning the rights and wrongs of this religion?
As for Roger Williams, he brought out his thoughts and concerns about the Bay Colony's Charter, specifically condemning it for the expropiation of land from the Indians without fair compensation. Even with this much, he argued against the civil government and its control on religious activity and behavior. His criticisms must have definitely raised questions and different opinions that have also led to the eventual seperation of church and state.
Put together, both Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams spoke their thoughts and beliefs against Puritan religion. And as for Williams, he recognized the seperation that law and religion should have.
hutchinsons first turly belived the word of the bible, but she eventually expressed her ideas of her own religious belifes which were that the church shouldnt set laws that had to do with religious ideas, that led to her being banished but not with out making a huge impact on the constitutions ideas of seperating church and state.
williams had two ideas that led to speration of church and state.
one was that he belived everyone should have the freedom to practice what ever religion they wanted and the other idea was that no one should be punished for going aganist the laws of the bible. once roger was banished he ended up finding rhode island
In response to hyphyqueen408's entry, though you made excellent points such as Hutchinson believing in personal revelation and supporting religious individuality, just to clear the air, she brought controversy to the Puritan Doctrine, not the Christian Doctrine. Also, Williams' Rhode Island colony had more significance than just being called "the sewer colony" In it, he established complete freedom of religion, a haven for those who suffered from religious persecution. Also, the Rhode Island Charter of 1663 exercised and ultimately contributed to the constitutional separation of church and state.
I disagree with Lucky’s entry because though everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you give no back up as to how she was a “cool chick” and general things such as her following her dreams and going for what she believed in could have been elaborated. And what “whole church thing”? She being an annoying feminist lady is irrelevant and disregards the question. We’re asked how she contributed to the separation of church and state, which means that she did. No “annoying feminist lady that made everyone want to slap her” can do that. She had followers, some of whom went with her when she was exiled from the Bay colony. The people Roger led to Rhode Island did not become druggies or terrorist hippies. Since when did they claim dogs to be witches? And how is that relevant to the separation of the state and church? Hutchinson and Williams contributed to the separation because they believed in and inspired religious freedom.
Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams were important for challenging the Puritan authority of the Bay colony. As the book states,"The Bay Colony enjoyed a high degree of social harmony, stemming from common beliefs..." Therefore, before Hutchinson and Williams expressed their views, the Puritan authority was absolute. However, when Hutchinson introduced her ideas of "extreme predestination" and Williams challenged the Church of England, Bay colony Charter and govt. regulation of religion, it showed how the Puritan authority could be challenged.
Their ideas showed everyone that the Puritan doctrine could not govern both church and state successfully and that the ideas of the public would differ from that of the church. This would eventually lead to the seperation of church and state.
I agree with jayaguilar86 about Hutchinson's and Williams's efforts. If they would not have expressed their opinions, the foundation of seperation of church and state would not have been as strong.
I disagree with hend that Roger Williams was more important than Hutchinson. Although he did advocate more and clearly sought seperation of church and state as a primary objective, Hutchinson took it a step further by challenging a fundamental Puritan belief. Therefore, she was also equally important in advocating the seperation of church and state and for freedom of speech.
God gave people the freedom of choice and so our minds work and come up with new ideas.
Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams are examples of this. Both of these figures disrupted the monotony of the Puritan belief and in doing so, startled the leaders into fearing "pollution" and expelling them from their experiment. Anne Hutchinson was a threat through her thinking out of the box (antinomianism) which led her to question Puritanism. Which eventually led her to be banished, because she was a factor that could lead to rebellion against the puritan belief. Roger Williams had different beliefs from Hutchinson, but is paired with her because he too was bold enough to question the faith and whether that faith gave them the right to do whatever they wanted in the name of God(ie, their poor treatment of the Indians). He spoke out and the Puritan leaders, fearing revolt and further growth of the other followers questioning their faith, banished him as well.
This in a sense reminds me of the movie "the Village". How the leaders worked so hard to keep their little community separated from the rest of the world and eliminated those who they considered threats. They were so afraid of change and when HUtchinson and Williams started to incorporate change and question their set ways, they immediately got rid of them to keep their little ignorant communities.
However, change cannot be stopped completely becasue the world is always changing and evolving. So when Hutchinson and Williams planted the seeds, slowly but surely, their ideas grew and in the end, all the Puritan leaders' efforts were all for naught. The church was separated from the state due to the realization that certain affairs had to be run different from the way Puritan leaders wanted it to be run. For the sake of change, the two were separated.
well...i'd have to say i agree with a few other before me in saying that LUCKY's comment made me pause... i'd have to say that ur response was...interesting, but did any of that come out of the book? Because to me it sounded like it was all opinions...
just saying ^-^;
i disagree with HEND that Roger Williams was more important than Anne Hutchinson. As LAKERS_117 said earlier, Anne hutchinson was equally important because she questioned the fundamentals of the religion. She gave her contribution to change and she should be shown the same recognition as Roger Williams who spoke out against the unjustice done to the Indians.
An exceptionally witty and strong-willed woman, Anne Hutchinson was the first person to actually question the rather far-fetched concept of predestination. She proclaimed that a truly saved person need not bother with neither God's nor man's laws. By influencing the colonists to disobey the laws, she became a threat to the Puritan way of life.
Roger Williams, on the other hand, openly and directly criticized the form of government used by the Puritans of Massachusetts; he also condemned the Bay Colony's charter, deeming it as undiplomatic and ill-devised. He later also established the colony of Rhode Island, which, by having loose association with all religions, was a step towards the separation of church and state.
It is because of the pressure caused by these two individuals that the government of Massachusetts regarded them as a threat. Threats to an authority associated with religion was a reason why the Church and State eventually became separate in the colonies.
I agree with what HEND said. Perhaps Roger Williams was a more influential figure than Anne Hutchinson, as he directly proved to be a threat to the exact purpose of the Puritan idea of government.
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Anne Hutchinson played a very inspiring role in the seperation of church and state in the constituion. She not only was a woman who was speaking out in public, but also spoke out again the Church which had a huge amount of power in the Puritan society. The contradicting theory she proposed about predestination and the point of living a good life definitely questioned if the Church should be part of the government's power.
As for Roger Williams, the actions he took up by speaking his opinions towards the public definitely supported the separation of Church and state. He believed in power to the individual and equal division of power. He well understood that religion is a personal preference and no one should force a religion upon someone.
I agree with historykid16 100% that Hutchinson and Williams definitely questioned the Puritan values and they came up with strong support to back up their theories and ideas.
I also agree with obviouslymatt because Hutchinson and Williams didn't directly contribute to the separation of Church and state, but they played a humongous role in impacting the beliefs and desires of the colonists at the time.
i believe Anne was a strong minded individual who strived for her goals and really contributed her ideas in the constitution. she was one of the bigest female activiest whos ever lived.Her ideas of seperating church and state helped our country become what it is to day with government and religion not having a Confrintation playing a big part in todays politics.
Roger williams along with Anne contributed alot to the idea of seperatting church and state . i think Roger being a male in the tim period helped him have a more respectable voice among the people and his words ment more to the people at the time knowing Anne was a women and her ideas ment nothing to most beings because women had no rights.
i agree with "lucky" everyone does have some good point of veiws and information to back it up.
also Rodger and Anne were both amazing people and activist.
i also agree with historykid16
because both Anne and Roger went against the puratins and stood above them to pass there ideas and beliefes on seperating church and state.
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In my opinion Anne Hutchinson did not have much to do with the separation of church and state. She was the first one to question it but that’s it. She stood up for what she believed in and for that she was banished from the country. Anne Hutchinson, from my point of view, started the whole church questioning.
On the other hand, roger Williams had much to do with it. He was the first to stand up for religious tolerance. Just like Anne he was banished from the country. He then established Rhode Island. He believed that the Indians were being treated very unfairly.
Both Anne and Roger had their own way to question the church. They both contributed to the changes in the churches. Although one did more than the other.
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I agree with obviously matt because he is right they didn’t change the law. However they did start the process of making the change.
I also agree with Natalie in the fact that Anne was a very outspoken person who stood up for something she believed in. this lead to the idea of separation of church and state.
Basically, Anne Hutchinson believed that if you were already saved in terms of Calvinism, then you do not have to follow the rules made by God or man. Similarly, she argues that if you weren't meant to be saved, then there was no point in trying to convert.
Roger Williams had a similar effect on religion as well. He was an extreme Separatist who believed in radical ideas. One of the things he thought was wrong was the idea of the Bay Colony's charter, which was being too generous to the Indians.
I agree with hyphyqueen408, because Anne and Roger were indeed a religious figure who brought upon controversy to the Church of England and the ways of Calvinism.
I agree with historykid16 for the fact that she was intelligent, but not enough to retrain her tongue. Maybe if she did learn to restrain her tongue, a type of Renaissance could have occurred from her beliefs.
Anne Hutchinson was a strong supporter, and believer in induvidual's rights to freedom of speech,thought,and the most important, being on the puritan topic, freedom of worship.Roger William's awless respect for indians dignity and his patience to deal with them earned an everlasting bond of friendship.When returning to Salem in 1633,problems with MA bay authorities immediatley came about.When Roger annunciated that the charter was invalid,and the king had no human right to give away land that belonged to the indians,he also stated that every man had freedom of choice on the topic of relegion, and the king was not granting that permission by forcing relegious choices on the colonists.In 1635 he was banished from the court and was threatened to be displaced from England if he didnt take back the comments he made.He left the colony before expected.
Leaders are people who refuse to back down or change their ways,even in the hands of criticism.Roger Williams left the country,to not create any more confrontation, yet he still had a strong hand set of his books of beliefs,and it wasnt budging.Anne Huchinson was the most kind- hearted lady who believed it was pointless to set strict rules on someone,even if they knew they werent elect.
The ideas of Williams and Hutchinson helped to contribute to the American Constitutional foundation of separation of church and state by pointing out the difference of human rights and human laws.
I agree with Jayaguilar86. He stated,"He believed that the Bay Colonies were treating the Indians unfairly by taking their land without fair compensation," in response to Roger Williams Opinions on authority figures.
Roger Williams created a strong bond with the indians,from treating them with equality,which nobody ever did and by seeing them treated unfairly he didnt want to put up with these set laws every citizen was supposed to deal with.
I disagree with obviouslymatt because he stated,"Although i think her theory of not following man's or God's law is a little obsurd she is still entitled to her opinion,"in reference to Anne Hutchinson's ways.
Anne Hutchinson not agreeing with the church is her way of stating, why should the non pre-destined follow these strict puritan rules that the elect are following, because they know they are going to heaven.
Speaking out by disagreeing is more of pointing out a difference in opinions,rather then being obsurd.In times like that, i can understand why this student understand making such a heard opinion could be obsurd,yet if she didnt, American Ways would of never be set in stone like how they are today.
well i guess their 0pini0ns helped the separati0n 0f church and state in the sense that the church n0 l0nger really had a say in what went 0n in the state. thats all i can think 0f
well i agree with hyphyqueen408 becaue i believe that Anne Hutchinson was a person who showed that is was okay to stand up for what you believe in.
Rodger Williams was also very important in the constitutions idea of separating church because if it weren't for him no one would have stood in what the believed in and took the courage that him and Anne had.
i agree with mashugna because in their comment about Rodger Williams they quote "one was that he belived everyone should have the freedom to practice what ever religion they wanted and the other idea was that no one should be punished for going aganist the laws of the bible." and i totally agree with this statement because it is true i believe you should be able to practice whichever religous belief you want without being judge and/ or discriminated
i think Anne Hutchinson and Rodger Willams are historical figures in that they proved to us you can stand up for what you believe in Anna Hutchinson didn't agree with the ideas of predestination so she made her feelings known and Rodgers belived everyone should have the freedom to practice what ever religion they wanted also that no one should be punished for going aganist the laws of the bible. Both of these historical figures made a great impact on the constitutions decision to separate church from and state.
Anne Hutchinson, being an exceptionally intelligent, strong-willed, and conversational woman, brought logic to the Puritan doctrine. SHe held a strong opposition against the concept of predestination. She argued that it was irrational to obey the laws of God or man if it earned no guarantee of salvation. Her belief contributed to the foundation of church and state because the faithfulness to a religious belief came to interfere with the obedience to a state-controlled law. Hutchinson's disbelief in this concept helped this separatiom between the two powers.
Roger Williams also contributed to the separation of church and state through his actions and his standing besides his own beliefs. As a minister, he stepped up and questioned the credibility of the state's Bay Colony's charted. He cursed it for the disowning of the Indian's lands for themselves. He stressed the religious impurity of the actions of the government. This contributed to the separation of church and state because the government according to Williams didn't follow the a righteous way of funcion, such as taking away lands from Indians.
Both Hutchinson and Williams contributed to the separation of the two powers because they both either tested the Puritan doctrine or the government's law. This made a difference because they obeserved that the impurities conflicted with obedience to either power.
I disagree with obviouslymatt when he says that Hutchinson made a bigger impact because Williams and she alike stood up and made an unusual challenge against the church's doctine and/or the government's behavior.
I agree with JayAguilar86 when he says that without the initiation of challenges of both Hutchinson and Williams, a revolution of a separation of state and church would not have taken placed without them.
During the 1700s, the Puritan Bay Colony was experiencing some sharp criticism that would eventually lead to the separation of church and state. Anne Hutchinson, an unofficial Puritan preacher, and Roger Williams, a Salem minister, both contributed to such separation. Although both may have not officially separated the church and state, they influenced the beginning of a new generation for their Puritan society.
First off, such a challenge began to formulate when Anne Hutchinson began her own “unofficial” Puritan meetings. These meetings were meant for women, but when her popularity and influence started to spread, men eventually started attending these meetings. In the meetings, Hutchinson would denounce Puritan orthodoxy for its irrelevant teachings. For instance, she denounced predestination; she argued that living a holy life would not guarantee one’s salvation and that there would be no need for the elect to follow such rules of neither God nor man because they are already destined for heaven. Her belief of antinomianism eventually led to Hutchinson’s ban from the Bay Colony. Although she was banished from the Bay Colony, her beliefs inspired many of her fellow Puritans. Thus, many began to question not only the regulations of the church, but also that of the church-regulated state.
Even though Anne Hutchinson may have sparked criticism toward Puritan orthodoxy, Roger Williams contributed a greater role for his influence on the idea of a separate church and state. Williams denounced how the Bay colony charter took away the Indian’s land without “fair compensation.” As a Separatist, he proclaimed that the civil government should not regulate religious behaviors. Like Hutchinson, Williams was banished from Massachusetts. After his flight from the Bay Colony, Williams help found the colony of Rhode Island, which became a haven for all religions. Rhode Island’s religious diversity helped exemplify how the authority of the state should not interfere with the religion of the civilians.
In response to jayaguilar86, I too believe that the beliefs and proclamations of both Hutchinson and Williams influenced the “idea of the state having independence away from the dictation of the church.” Their ideas may not have started a revolution, but their beliefs did inspire many to question the authority of the church and the church-regulated state. They both took the lead in challenging the Puritan orthodoxy, which would eventually have lead to the separation of church and state.
I have to make a disagreement with obviouslymatt when he asserts that “Hutchinson, created a more impact mark on the movement.” In my opinion, I believe that Roger Williams can be more attributed to the idea of the separation of the church and state because he actually established the tolerant Rhode Island. Such an establishment of a religiously diverse colony defined how religion and state cannot always be inseparable.
On the other hand, Anne Hutchinson, in my opinion, only helped spark criticism of Puritan orthodoxy; her beliefs inspired others. Unlike Williams, she did not take deliberate action in creating a separate church and state colony.
During the time of social harmony between the Bay Colony, the bright and outspoken Anne Hutchinson dared to contradict the Puritan ways. She didn't blabber her mouth randomly, but rather blabbered her mouth logically. For instance, she claimed that why obey the law of any man or God when a person has been predestined for heaven. Overall Hutchinson contributed by challenging the Puritan orthodox.
Roger Williams, a Salem minister, went on a different approach to contributing to the separation of Church and state. Rather then contradicting the actual Puritan beliefs, Williams challenged the legality of the Bay Colony's charter that took the land from the Indians, and questioned the power of the government to state what is right or wrong of religious behaviors. Like Hutchinson, Williams was banished from the Bay Colony. He later on established the "Sewer Colony" where people who were unwanted or disliked for their religion took refuge.
I agree with Mar about Williams having more impact. Although Hutchinson did sparked people's interest with her remarks of logic, I believe Williams took the extra mile of establishing a colony where the unwanted felt welcomed.
I agree with Jayaguilar86 saying that they may not have started a rebellion, but instead set a foundation for separation from the dictation of the church.
Well besides all the info i found....i did kinda notice that they really didnt CHANGE anything...they just kinda started the controversy which led to the law of separation of church and state....
Lucky, i like the way you write your info it makes me want to keep reading because you use language that teens our age would use...
Both Hutchinson and Roger Williams ideas helped contribute to the American Constitutional foundation of separation of the church and state. Anne Hutchinson was an intelligent, strong-willed woman who believed that leading a holy life wasn't a sure sign of salvation and that the truly saved do not need to bother with obeying the law of either God or man. Thus, this idea claims that if one is already predestined to heaven, then why must he/she follow the laws of man or God? This question may have influenced the Puritans to question the authority of the church over the state. Roger Willams was a Salem minister who was an extreme Separatistwho challenged the leagality of the Bay Colony's charter. Also he denied the authority of government regulating religous behavior. His ideas and actions also may have led people into developing opinions of corruption within the church to protect its citizens, thus causing the people to push religion away from the state.
I agree with jayaguilar86, antinomianism was considered high heresy and because of her idea of predestination, she may have influenced people into taking consideration of her idea, causing people to have resentment towards the connection of the church and state.
I also agree with righteousprofet, in which i also believe that both Williams and Hutchinson's openly spread ideas and the way they spoke their minds contributed greatly to the idea of separation between church and state
Anne Hutchingson and Roger Williams both contributed to the ideas of church and state in that they showed that the teachings of the church were illogical and government is a place that its built on logic and politics.
Anee Hutchinson and Roger Williams
indirectly helped to contribute to the seperation of church and state.
Back in The Puritan days, people did as they were told and did not question authority. But Hutchinson and Williams decided to be the ones ro question authority. It was much difficult for Hutchins to voice her opinions because she was a women. By Hutchins and Williams showing that it was "o.k." to challenge authority it made more and more people question challenge the church's involvement in the state. I believe both of them should be credited because without them raising the question, I strongly believe that church would still control the state today.
I agree with jayaguilar86 because part of Hutchinson's major points that she made was that just because you were not predestined did not mean that you were not going to heaven.
I diasagree with historykid16 because Hutchinson was not to smart for her own good. She made good points which made the religous leaders upset. She did not make untrue statements.
Mr. Wise this is Marissa Washington from your P.3 APUSH and i changed my username again...sorry.
Both Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams disagreed with the Puritan’s beliefs. Anne believed that there was no need to follow God's laws or mans' laws. She also preached how all of our futures were predetermined. Roger on the other hand believed that the state had no right to force religion on anyone. Both of their ideas were called heresy by the Puritans. After being exiled Roger established a colony in Rhode Island where their was a separation of church and state. If these two activists hadn't of spoken up about their ideas then there might not be a separation of church and state today.
Anne Hutchinson & Roger Williams had a lot of significance to the American Constitutional. She had logical ideas and believed that a holy life was no sure of salvation. The ones who did not have it, why should they follow the God's rule or church. It was a high heresy and puritans could of question their authority.They had to banish her she was a threat. Roger Williams the salem minister challenged the legality of the Bay Colony's charter. He denied the authority of the civil govt. to regulate religious behavior. It made had an impact on the people so they won't do what the church wants. They were unforgetable peoplpe that made a difference.
I agree with schiller_3 he believed that they stood up for what they believed. It is very true no one can get a change unless you speak your mind. It takes strength and courage to stand because you might have a lot of pople againts you. I give them props....
I agree with mar, Anne had meetings. So they had meetings with girls so it was good. It gave an encouragement to woman because they didnt have a right in those days. It gave girls some strength to them, that is what I think.
I agree with jayaguilar86 when he says that Roger and Anne stood strong even though they stood alone. Even though they were only 2 people they still influenced the fate of 1000's of colonists for years to come
I agree with marissaw in that Anna Hutchingson was not too smart for her own good and that she told the complete truth.
I believe that Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams contributed to the American ideals of separating church and state because Anne Hutchinson was the first to protest against the religious state in the English Colonies. Roger Williams contributed toward that idea by founding Rhode Island, which promoted religious tolerance. Those ideals got them banished from Massachusetts, but eventually, led to a brilliant point in the Constitution.
Anne Hutchinson waz important because she believed that neither church nor state was needed to connect a believer to his or her God. this statement was a threat to the rulers of Massachusetts Bay Colony. In Massachusetts, church and state were together and the average colonist was expected to stick to established accepted belief. Anne Hutchinson was termed a “leper” and banished to Rhode Island in 1638. There she worked with Roger Williams who had also been exiled from Massachusetts.
Given the difficulty in taking a hard stand that still existed until recently, it’s nearly impossible the imagine the type of personality and the extent of courage it took for a woman to risk banishment in a wilderness nearly 400 years ago.
I agree with viaeenie who stated that Lucky was wrong to call Anne Hutchinson “annoying” because Lucky clearly did state that Hutchinson was courageous and determined. I also agree with historykid16 that anne hutchinson was intelligent but too smart for her own good. Even though she founded Rhode Island, she did get banished from Massachuesetts for her over-confidence and intelligence.
I agree with Jayaguilar because of the motives that Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams had in changing the status quo in the colonies. They both did speak their minds, and were punished for it. Eventually, tolerance prevailed and has shaped our country today.
I disagree with gio on the point of Roger Williams because he defied the Puritan religion by speaking out against it. He did get banished from the colony, and did eventually move to Rhode Island, which became the most diverse colony of the time.
I disagree with "obviously Matt". I think that although both Hutchinson and Williams had an impact on the separation movement, Williams had a greater impact. Not only did he succeed in the development of a new settlement that was an essential example of the separation of state and church, individualistic, and religiously developed, but he fought long and hard for the split of religiously based politics.
Both Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams had much to say,which contrubuted to the concept of seperation of state. First of all, both anne and roger spoke freely and had their own ideas, they didnt really care about what other had to say, they were very headstrong.
Anne was a strong woman and even though her thoughts were ignored upon by the church Anne belevied that people weren't chosen to be saved. and as for Roger he disagreed with Puritan beliefs.He believed that the Bay Colonies were treating the Indians unfairly by taking their land without fair compensation.
They both[anne hutchinson, and roger william] realized many things, especially one inportant idea which was that the state cannot have control of what religion people can have or believe in. This belief eventually led to the concept of the seperation of church and state.
I agree with "Marr" in disagreeing in "obviously Matt" and in his belief that Williams was more attributed to the idea of the separation of church and state because "he actually established the tolerant Rhode Island". As I said before, in establishing this new settlement, Williams advocated more and clearly sought separation of church and state as a primary objective.
I agreee with hend also when they said that Anne Hutchinson formed the backbone for the idea of separation of church and state. She was one of the first women to actually stand by her beliefs no matter what. evenafter her exile from her colony she never denied any of her actions
Both Roger Williams And Anne Hutchinson were great contributers to the church and state for various reasons.
Roger Williams first off gave voice to the views of separationist.He used the phrase "Wall of seperation" refering to his prefrence of separating religion from all other aspects. He became also spread the ideas of separationism by becoming a Separatist teacher in the Plymouth colony.
Anne Hutchingson contrinuted by being a Puritan preacher. Because of her very public views she caused controvercy and was banished from her colony. Her opened mind towards her beliefs triggered others to explore the same ideals.
I disagree \\X// ] |_ 1 [ /\ (V) when he said with Anna Hutchingson was not too smart for her own good. I think she knew exactly what she was doing and she knew that her actions would come with consequences but she was willing to take the risks in order to get her views through to other people.
i believe that the statement that hend said about anne hutchingson and that she was the backbone for the idea of separation of church and state is very true.
I have to disagree with lucky on the basis of their post, stating that Anne Hutchison may have been an "annoying feminist." She spoke out to what she believed in, against the church, and not for a feminist cause. What she did was to question the leadership of a "false belief" such as predestination on her part.
I agree with Yazmin13 on her ideas and thoughts of Roger Williams and what he said about giving the voice to the views of separationist.
I agree with jayaguilar86 on the fact that both Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams stood up to their beliefs, even if no one stood along with them in the beginning. I absolutely agree with the fact that they did not exactly start a revolution, but created the basis for a seperate church and state.
This one is a little hard but I will try.
I think Anne just did that little something that just made the people think, " hey, we need to stop letting church interfere with government before something happens." I believe that is how we got like this today to where you can't have religions in school and some other things. It causes problems because people have different beliefs.
Now as for Robert, he just exposed some of the churches for the cons they are and MBC was not having it so they made both Anne and Robert leave. Which goes with why you cant have church and state together unless you run it strictly by I guess, the Bible.
Anne Hutchinson was a bold and intelligent woman. She was courageous to stand up to the Puritans and express her beliefs, even if society was against her two to one. However, I don't believe that she contributed much to the American Constitutional foundation of separation of church and state (at least not as much as Roger Williams did). But she does deserve some credit for standing out and expressing her beliefs. As people heard her claims, they too could have begun to question the Puritan ways. By standing up for what she believed in, she shared her ideas which spread throughout the peoples.
However, Roger Williams is the one who made a major contribution to the foundation of separation of church and state. Not only did he claim how corrupt the Church of England was, but also challenged the Bay Colony's charter. And if that weren't enough, when the Bay Colony's authorities banished him, he fled to Rhode Island where he established complete freedom of religion, even for Jews and Catholics. Unlike Anne Hutchinson, Roger Williams took action. He put to work what he believed in.
In my opinion, both Hutchinson and Williams had great ideas and were both very bold in going against the Puritan majority. They were even risking to take consequences for their actions. I believe that Hutchinson lighted the fire, and Williams made it bigger. Anne Hutchinson sparked doubt about the Puritans' ways in the minds of the public, and Roger Williams took it a step further (took action). By not keeping their ideas to themselves, they inspired others to go against the corrupt ways of the Puritans.
Response 1---I agree with Lakers_117 (or something like that). They both did expose the corrupt powers and stop an abomination from happening.
Response 2--- Now I may be crazy, but I disagree with MarissaW 's quote, "I strongly believe that church would still control the state today.". I do not think that church would be in control because I think that someone else would have come along and challenged the church because that always happens [eg Martin Luther and The Roman Catholics(i think that the right catholics, its late)]
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jayaguilar86
I agree that Anne Hutchinson contributed in that she spoke her mind and stirred in the minds of the people a thought never heard of
: if they truly were already predestined to hell, then why not do whatever they wanted? In addition, I agree that if Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams never spoke their minds, then our church and state wouldn't be what it was today. By expressing their ideas in public, they inspired other people, began to make people wonder, and eventually had a support group that would take action.
historykid16
I disagree that Anne Hutchinson was "too smart for her own good." Sure she had a "big mouth," but that big mouth of hers is what stirred the mind of the public. For the first time ever, they began to question the Puritan ways. If it weren't for Hutchinson being "too smart for her own good," we might not have established what we have today.
I agree with mikeb in that Roger's greatest contribution to the separation of church and state was the formation of the Rhode Island colony. It was the first to have a separation of church and state and it also practiced freedom of religion.
Without people like Anne Hutchingson and Roger Williams we would not be who we are today. They both were different people with different ideas, but both accomplised a great task. They contributed to the American Consistions idea of separating church and state. Anne Hutchins spoke against a religious therory, and Roger Willans was one of the first known person to speak out and publically be known that he was a spokes person of religious tolerance.
I must say i agree with JayAguilar86 and what they are saying about Anne and her pesonality traits which contributed much to what she accomplished.
Thank you MikeB, i never really noticed how much Anne and Roger contributed to the constitution. What they did, did get them banashied from Massachusets but what they did for this country has a greater and more powerful effect.
To begin with, Anne Hutchinson believed that if you were already chosen to go to heaven by the means of Calvinism, then basically you could do any wrong or negative things and not follow the terms of God and man and that if you werent one of the chosen, converting was an option but there was no point in doing so. Roger Williams had somewhat similar ideas to Hutchinson in separating the church and state. His opinions and voice were more clearly projected to the public since he was a male. Anne's message wasnt sent out as well as his because she was a female and they had no righs at the time being. He understood that religion is a personal preference and should not be forced upon an individual to follow what they wish not to. He also founded Rhode Island and there he did not have a law regarding to be a particular follower of a religion, he gave freedom to people of all religions.
Historykid16: I agree with them in the way they foresaid that Hutchinson and Williams definately questioned the puritan values and that they had come up with strong support to back up their theories and ideas.
Hyphyqueen408: I agree with her saying that Hutchinson was an activist and religious figure who brought controversy in the Massuchussetts regarding the Christian Doctrine.
Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams had varying views on religion. Hutchinson advocated the principle of antinomianism and Williams, a known separatist, urged for the separation from the Church of England. These views conflicted with the beliefs of the "city upon a hill". The dissenters affected not only the stability of the church but of the state as well. If more dissenters came to existence, the state would be affected greatly by the dissenters. Therefore, it would only be logical to separate the church from the state for the sake of the state.
\\X// ] |_ 1 [ /\ (V): A very good point: the state must be logical at all times, whereas, many doctrines of religion are illogical.
righteousprofet: I agree the state realized they could not control the religion of the people of this diverse and cultural new world.
Anne Hutchingson contributed to the to the America constitution idea of seperating church and state by criticizing John Calvins teachings that only certain people are chosen to go to heaven and the rest are going to hell (predestination). Anne also made a good point as she talked about one does not need to obey the law if God has already chosen the path for someone (Antinomianism). Although this was a threat to the church and thought of as heresy Anne stuck to her beliefs and was banished from Massachusetts. Her ideas scared the church and the head of the state because her words and beleifs can pollute people minds which can cause chaos.
Roger Williams also contribute to the seperation because of his "radical Ideas" and his strong beleifs put him in danger. Williams believed that the government should not have connections to the church. He was arguing about how church cannot influence the power of the state or it regulations. Williams even disagreed with the Bay Colony's Charter and how it was abused the Indians rights and how they took land without giving anything back or "fair compensation."
Anne Hutchingson questioned the validity of the church and its teachings. Roger Williams focused more on the influnce of the state should not be based on the church and that they should be seperated.
Sorry i was late again
Both Roger Williams and Anne Hutchinsin contributed to the American Consitutional ideas of seperating church and state by expressing their views amongst the colonist. Anne Hutchinsin questioned the doctrine of predestination believing that if God had already chosen those for salvation why continue worshiping and praising his name if were to be already saved. She believed that there was no promise to salvation or antinomianism.
Roger Williams challenged Puritan Authority by attacking the Puritans legally, the Massachusetts Bay Charter (for they had stolen land form Indians for themselves) and its government restrictions or regulations on religion. This showed that the Puritan Authority could be challenged.
These two individuals expressed there ideas showing that Puritan control of both Church and state could never coexist.
I agree with historykid16 with the fact that Anne Hutchinson had to restraint on telling people her beliefs and questioning the church..
I agree with natalie stating that Roger Williams just believed that the government should not control the religious community in the colony.
Okay so Anne Hutchinson was a really inspirational woman. She was very intelligent and very outspoken as opposed to many of the other women from her time period. She lived in a time where men were the dominant sex and a woman's opinion didn't really matter. Women didn't have the right to vote or do many of the things that the men were allowed to do. She was very brave because not only was she going against everybody else's beliefs, but the fact that she was a woman made it even harder on her. There could have been severe consequences for her actions, but that didn't matter to her. She believed that the elects weren't the only ones going to heaven but that you had to earn your way in through your life on earth and what type of person you were. She stuck with her ideas and nobody was going to change her mind. She was a woman who dared to question society and not only keep her ideas to herself but to share them with others and she actually had followers. She was a strong, brave, and independent woman who stuck with her beliefs and changed history.
Roger Williams was an extreme separatist who had his own ideas and was very outspoken as well. He did brave and honorable things such as challenging the legality of the Bay Colony's Charter. He said that it was "exproprating the land from the Indians without fair compensation." To take things further, he denied the authority of the civil government to regulate religious behavior. In 1635, he was found guilty by the Bay Colony authorities of "disseminating 'newe and dangerous opinions'". There were plans to exile him to England, but Williams foiled them.
It wasn't very common during this time to have choices of how you wanted to live your life because these people had been living a certain way for a very long time and nobody really knew anything different, but these two did it. They weren't going to just stand back and do nothing about what they felt wasn't right in their society. They believed in themselves and their ideas enough to go through with it and they ended up changing history.
I think that chadbrochill23 and i have the same views on anne hutinson and roger williams. we both said that these individuals sexes had a lot to do with whether they were agreed with or not because their sex did play a huge role in it. during this time men were repected way more than women so nobody really questoned it when a man would speak so it might have been easier for williams to get more people to listen to his ideas because of that fact that he was male.
i disagree with historykid16 when he/she stated that anne hutchinson "might have been too smart for her own good." she was not too smart for her own good, she just had her own ideads and opinions on the way things should work, such as people choosing their own religions. plus, if she had never brought up her ideas then things might not have turned out the way they did with our government or even our freedom of religion. so when he/she said that she was too smart for her own good that makes it sound as though she should never have done what she did, wich is not the case at all.
The Puritans beleived in a dead end religion, according to them, god had already hand picked a persons after life direction long before that person was even born, there couldn't have been, for lack of a better word, a dumber way to look at life. If you were a chosen one, then what was the point of acting holy? Either way, you were getting into heaven. And if you were destined to hell, then what was the point of going to church and living life like a puritan? God wasn't going to change his mind, you were still screwed. Anne Hutchinson knew how dumb the idea was, she preached that when she would have her little bible meeting, as it was common for women to have bible meetings. The Puritans took her to court, where she outsmarted the prosecuters till she claimed that her beliefs came straight from god.
She was kicked out of the bay colony, so she packed her bags and went off to Rhode island. She and her family were killed by Indians.
Roger Williams, a salem minister, called the Puritan Bay Colony hypocrites, mainly because they had stolen their land from the Indians. He Despised the Church of England, and he beleived in religious tolerance, which pissed off the Puritans, the exiled him for his new and dangerous opinions.
He Fled to the Rhode Island area of the colonies. He Established the first Baptist in America. He welcomed anyone from any religion to Rhode island.
Thats when it all happened, he allowed no special right to be given to anyone, or any religion. Rhode Island was probably the most liberal are in the world at that point. Those ideas influenced the way we think today.
Anne Hutchinson contributed to the American Constitutional foundation of separation of church and state because she basically stated that, “A holy life was no sure sing of salvation and that the truly saved need not bother to obey the law of either God or man.” This was known as antinomianism. This brings out both religious and political issues. Puritans were all in it for both religion and political. Both were connected and Puritans wanted it to stay that way. Anne being as strong-willed as she was, began to question this and this made Puritan afraid that other people might stop and think about what she was saying. This is why she was vanished from Massachusetts and settled in Rhode Island, but she took her beliefs with her and from there they grew.
On the other hand, Roger Williams also contributed to the American Constitutional foundation of separation of church and state. He was a separatist and wanted a clean break from the Church of England, and of course, the Puritans didn’t like this. He started challenging the Bay Colony’s charter and sympathized for the Indians because he thought that the Puritans didn’t compensate them for the land. As Anne Hutchinson, he didn’t think that the church and state should be one whole. He denied the authority of civil government to control religious behavior. Once again, the Puritans didn’t like him questioning the Puritan’s idea of government, so the banished him. Roger Williams then left to Rhode Island.
I agree with The Next Black Billionaire because Anne did think like there needed to be a stop to the government controlling religion.
I also agree with JayAguilar86 because when hearing Anne people would most definately question why they still had to obey God's and man's laws if they were already destined to eternity in hell.
good job guys
Anne Hutchingson defidently contributed to the idea of separtating church and state. She was a intelligent, talkative, strong-willed woman. She diagreed with the Puritan doctrine of predestination. She said, "A holy life was no sure sign of salvation and that the truly saved need not bother to obey the law of eith God or man." This was known as antinomianism. She was brought to trial in 1638, her intelligence and quick logical arguments stunned her clerical inquistors. The Puritan magistrates banished her because she was creating heresy.
Roger Williams, a Salem minister showed a bigger threat to the Puritans. Williams was an extreme separatist, who had radical ideas and didn't think before he talked. He got his other clergymen to make a break with him from the Church of England, also challenged the legality of the Bay Colony's charter. He then denied the authority of the civil government to regulate relgious behavior. In 1635, the "Bay Colony authorities found Williams guilty of dissemination "newe and dangerous opinions." He became banished.
I agree with sexayybeast1, had a good point and explanation of how Anne Hutchingson believed if God already has chosen who will be saved why should you still worship him.
I agree with jayaguilar86, had a point I didn't touch in my explanation: How unfair it was that the Bay Colonies were taking the Indians' land without fair compensation.
Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams contributed to the America constitutions idea of separating church and state by expressing there ideas through means of being a public and religious figure denouncing their disagreements. This brought controversy, but it forever changed the idea of church and state in the government.
Anne Hutchinson was an unauthorized Puritan preacher in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and New Netherlands. She held bible studies for women and soon, later, men joined, where she pronounced her religious philiosophies, which created controversies. She stressed that doing good works was not the way to salvation. This could affect the people's perspective on not wanting to join the sate because it was connected with a "sinful" church.
Roger Williams was a notable figure in the concept of the separation of Church and State. He wanted to separate the two because he believed that forcing a religion upon someone was not good. He believed in the tolerance of relgions, which is basicall the freedom of religion, where the state cannot force a religion upon someone.
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i agreee mostly wiht everyone..Anne Hutchinson and Roger Willaims strongly contributed wiht the separation of church and state.
Anne Hutchinson was a smart and bold woman.
she spoke out and stood up for waht she believed in. like the way she questioned about the puritan belief about predestination. what the point of alll the rules of the puritan and even gods laws if god already chose who will go to heaven or not. its kindoff a waste of time for the ones whos not goin to heaven cause they do their best in doing good but they are still goin to hell..
Roger williams a very religous amn was also a great man who spoke out for what he believed in. Any one should hav the freedom to what or who they wanna belive in. the gov. shouldnt force their citizens on what to believe in. everyone is different and everyone view things differently. Also he didnt like how the colony treated the Indians. He migrated to rhode island cause they had more freedom there and be able to believe in wat u believe in.
good job guys
Anne Hutchingson and Roger Williams contributed to the America constitutions idea of church and state by the involvment of their own views on the church and state. With them argueing their point of what they believed to be. People took it into consideration and changed what they knew. Anne believed in religious ideas to be free, so it didn't matter what religion you were.
Roger believed that the church should be separated from the state. So, you could have the freedom of religion.
I agree with hyphyqueen408, Anne Hutchingson and Roger Williams got kicked out or banned from Massachusetts.
I also agree with historykid16 on how these two people disagreed with Puritan's way of church and state together.
Sorry they are a few days late. I forgot it and something came up, see you next Tuesday.
I'm not a big fan of really big words and everything but...Hutchinson and Williams contributed to the the separation of the state and churches by standing out in the crowd. Anne cause many peoples attention just by standing out and trying to change peoples views. while Williams denied what the government had to say about the churches. with all the Puritans views... Anne and Roger tried to change their views. and made the people really realize. if they weren't so independent and strong. i doubt things would be different with churches.
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